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	<title>Comments on: Pageviews Dead: Killed by RSS, AJAX, Widgets</title>
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		<title>By: Garrick Van Buren</title>
		<link>http://garrickvanburen.com/archive/pageviews-dead-killed-by-rss-ajax-widgets/comment-page-1#comment-27486</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrick Van Buren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because of the stateless nature of HTTP, long time-spent viewing doesn&#039;t really tell us anything. Google is an example of something hugely valuable where we spent microseconds. So, perhaps each page load starts a timer - the more time I spend there, the less valuable it is.

Secondly, server log data already tells us the bits about RSS. I&#039;ve talked earlier about no-brainer, &lt;a href=&quot;http://workingpathways.com/workbetter/archive/rss-puts-identification-in-the-hands-of-your-customers/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;customer-centric ways declare readership&lt;/a&gt;.

Either way, none of these techniques are actually refined enough to provide real value.

Pageviews are dead - which means we actually have to focus on metrics that actually matter. What are they? 

Depends on what you&#039;re trying to accomplish. Preferably something that we can&#039;t write a robot to do for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because of the stateless nature of HTTP, long time-spent viewing doesn&#8217;t really tell us anything. Google is an example of something hugely valuable where we spent microseconds. So, perhaps each page load starts a timer &#8211; the more time I spend there, the less valuable it is.</p>
<p>Secondly, server log data already tells us the bits about RSS. I&#8217;ve talked earlier about no-brainer, <a href="http://workingpathways.com/workbetter/archive/rss-puts-identification-in-the-hands-of-your-customers/" rel="nofollow">customer-centric ways declare readership</a>.</p>
<p>Either way, none of these techniques are actually refined enough to provide real value.</p>
<p>Pageviews are dead &#8211; which means we actually have to focus on metrics that actually matter. What are they? </p>
<p>Depends on what you&#8217;re trying to accomplish. Preferably something that we can&#8217;t write a robot to do for us.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 20:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like the replacement to pageviews is time spent viewing. When the browser clicks away from your site, you no long have the eyeballs of that IP address. While they&#039;re looking at the site, track how many rotating banner ads you display, and possibly use some kind of ajax/layers to attract their eyes when they do something ad-worthy. Even if pages don&#039;t reload you can still tell what content the user is accessing. Perhaps use an &quot;invisible&quot; mouseover-- take note when the cursor passes over things but use that information to know what the user&#039;s looking at, not to make anything change on screen.

With regard to RSS, I think it would be a good idea if it included some means to let bloggers know when a person is viewing their feed, or has subscribed. It could be an optional thing in a feedreader. That would let RSS grow as a commercial endeavour, because it would be a means to measure viewership.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like the replacement to pageviews is time spent viewing. When the browser clicks away from your site, you no long have the eyeballs of that IP address. While they&#8217;re looking at the site, track how many rotating banner ads you display, and possibly use some kind of ajax/layers to attract their eyes when they do something ad-worthy. Even if pages don&#8217;t reload you can still tell what content the user is accessing. Perhaps use an &#8220;invisible&#8221; mouseover&#8211; take note when the cursor passes over things but use that information to know what the user&#8217;s looking at, not to make anything change on screen.</p>
<p>With regard to RSS, I think it would be a good idea if it included some means to let bloggers know when a person is viewing their feed, or has subscribed. It could be an optional thing in a feedreader. That would let RSS grow as a commercial endeavour, because it would be a means to measure viewership.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I prefer to &quot;keep it real&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I prefer to &#8220;keep it real&#8221;.</p>
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